From Paris to Global Depositions: Ian Hardy on Building Optima Juris and the Evolution of Deposition Services

Our founder and CEO, Ian Hardy, recently joined Attorney Benjamin R. Gold on The Lawyer Stories Podcast to discuss the origins of Optima Juris, the company’s expansion from international depositions to nationwide services, and the role of technology in the legal industry. 

Founded by Attorney Benny Gold in 2017, Lawyer Stories began as a community where legal professionals could share their career journeys. Its podcast features conversations with people across the legal industry about their experiences, challenges, and paths into the profession. 

In Episode 288 of The Lawyer Stories Podcast, Ian reflects on more than 25 years of experience, from his introduction to legal videography in Paris to the development of an international network supporting depositions and hearings. He also discusses reporter availability, deposition costs, and how reporting technology has developed over the years. 

How Optima Juris Began in Paris 

Ian’s introduction to deposition services came while he was studying filmmaking at the University of Paris. Through a professional contact, he began working as a legal videographer, recording depositions involving American attorneys and witnesses in France. 

At the time, attorneys frequently traveled internationally to question witnesses, accompanied by court reporters and other professionals. Ian’s work soon extended beyond France, and he recalls traveling to two or three European countries in a single week to provide legal videography services. Along the way, he developed relationships with attorneys, court reporters, interpreters, and other deposition professionals. 

Those relationships helped establish the international network that would later become Optima Juris. As attorneys began requesting assistance with depositions in other countries, Ian expanded his contacts with qualified professionals in those locations. What began with individual assignments in Europe eventually extended to Asia and other regions. 

Technology also played an important role in the company’s early development. Before moving into legal services, Ian had minored in computer science at the University of California, Berkeley, and worked with early internet technology. He applied that experience to building websites that helped American and Canadian attorneys find deposition services in European locations. 

An attorney searching online for a court reporter in Paris could find his website and arrange services directly. Combined with his growing professional network, this approach helped Ian reach clients beyond his existing contacts and develop the business internationally. 

Today, Optima Juris coordinates deposition and hearing services across all 50 U.S. states and more than 90 countries. 

From International Depositions to Nationwide Services 

Optima Juris grew along with the network. Ian met reporters in other countries, and they started passing jobs to each other. Attorneys with international cases began asking for more: a witness in Hong Kong, a witness in Mexico. Optima branched into Asia, and at first Ian flew out himself. In 2010 he moved back to California, where he is from, and ran the business from there. His first hire was a former court reporter. 

For more than 25 years, Optima Juris has served every region worldwide, including the U.S. and Canada. The next big shift came after COVID, when the American Arbitration Association (AAA-ICDR©) sought support to coordinate deposition and hearing services. Ian said yes and offered new technology along with the services. Optima Juris is now the AAA’s exclusive partner for hearing and deposition services. Ian calls the relationship “probably one of the greatest honors of my life.” 

Addressing Reporter Availability and Deposition Costs 

During the conversation, Ian identifies reporter availability and cost as two significant challenges facing the court reporting industry. 

He discusses the retirement of experienced stenographic reporters and the difficulties attorneys can encounter when securing coverage, particularly for smaller depositions or proceedings in locations with limited availability. These circumstances can affect scheduling and the cost of obtaining a transcript. 

Ian also explains how reporting expenses affect different legal practices. Personal injury attorneys may advance deposition costs on behalf of their clients, while family law clients often pay those expenses directly. For smaller arbitrations, reporting fees can represent a substantial portion of the proceeding budget. 

Another concern is pricing transparency and how additional charges can increase the final cost of reporting services, sometimes leaving attorneys with invoices that differ considerably from their initial expectations. 

These considerations have influenced how Optima Juris develops its reporting options. We continue to provide traditional stenographic court reporting, including realtime services, while offering more technology-forward arrangements such as SmartTranscript+.  

Technology and the Evolution of Court Reporting 

Ian also reflects on how the legal industry has adopted new technology over the past 25 years. He recalls that technological developments in deposition services initially progressed more slowly than in other industries, despite the availability of tools that could assist with recording, communication, and transcript production. 

Remote proceedings were one important development. Ian describes how the 2008 financial crisis encouraged Optima Juris to explore remote workflows as law firms sought to reduce travel expenses. Remote and hybrid proceedings have since become more widely used, allowing attorneys, witnesses, interpreters, and court reporters to participate from different locations, subject to applicable procedural and local legal requirements. 

While remote participation can reduce travel requirements, proceedings may still require local facilities, equipment, and interpretation. These arrangements remain an important part of coordinating testimony across jurisdictions, which Optima Juris has mastered. 

The conversation also examines developments in how testimony is captured and transcripts are produced. Ian discusses three reporting methods: stenographic reporting, voice writing, and digital reporting. 

He expresses utmost respect for stenographic court reporters and their specialized training while explaining how other reporting methods have developed. His emphasis is on the accuracy of the record, certified court reporter oversight, and compliance with the requirements under the law. 

Keeping Certified Court Reporters Responsible for the Record 

The episode also addresses artificial intelligence and its role in transcription technology. 

Ian explains that Optima Juris has developed technology to assist with transcript production while maintaining human oversight. Rather than treating automated transcription as a replacement for court reporters, he describes technology as a tool that supports their work. 

Our SmartTranscript+ service reflects this approach. It combines technology-assisted transcription with human review and certification by a court reporter. A court reporter is always present throughout the proceeding, oversees the record, and certifies the final transcript following human review. 

Hear more of Ian’s perspective on the future of deposition services, the challenges facing the legal industry, and the experiences that shaped Optima Juris in his full conversation with Benny Gold. Listen to the full episode on your preferred platform: 

YouTube | Spotify | Apple Podcasts 

Inna Dion

Inna joined the Optima Juris team in 2024 as a Sales and Marketing Assistant. She has a versatile background in case management, content marketing, and data strategy, thriving in various startup environments. She is also a law student with a passion for creative problem-solving and feature writing. Outside of work, she enjoys playing video games and taking photographs.